The gandalf of grapes and the wizard of snacking join John to discuss breaking the rules, going "off the grid," and the poetics of farming. Kevin was turning 40, that's why he wasn't there. Hire Jenny for a job, and drink Nate's wines. ////LIST////
Chateau Massereau, Bordeaux Superior, 'Cuvee K,' 2012//
Domaine du Pech, 'la Badinerie du Pech,' 2011//
Hiyu, 'Corvus,' 2019////